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E-3 Focusing Issues
By Richard Pavek at 05/25/2009 - 19:56

BLM-1There have been conflicting reports on focusing the E-3. Some owners reported problems while others couldn’t find any. A certain amount of bitterness ensued over this. Tony and I who use entirely different lens setups independently stumbled on the solution to the elusive problems.

I photograph birds, mostly in flight, with the ZD 300 mm and the ZD 90-250 mm, most often with the EC 20 Extender. I should mention that I was using two E-3s without the HLD-4 holder because I do not like the ergonomics of the HLD-4 grip – a bump where there should be none and an awkwardly angled trigger – made me give up the grip, which I loved with my E-1s because it had a better ergonomic fit.

Tracking a bird in flight with the narrow angle of view of a 600 mm rig (equivalent to 1200 mm in 35 mm format) is difficult and demands near instantaneous spot-on focus. I usually got it, but not always. Some days I went for a long time and then couldn’t seem to hold my focus. Just getting tired I thought, losing my edge, maybe needing a cup of coffee.
Then one morning I was out on the levee photographing Sandhill Cranes; the sun was bright and the air near the ground was filled with a bright haze and I just couldn’t lock on birds that were standing still, let alone flying. I had shot over two hundred images (raw) but that shouldn’t have been a problem, I often go to 400 shots with my 8 gig card. I changed shutter speed and ISO setups to no avail; I still had a hard time focusing. Yes, I could manually focus but that doesn’t work for birds in flight.

Tony, coming from another direction, had the same problem. (After a long period of shooting when he didn’t have a problem.) Tony shoots lots of weddings using an E-3 with the 14-35 mm and always used the HLD-4 for the power needed for the fill-flash. Here is what happened to him:

As the wedding season ended, I took off the HLD-4 to have a lighter camera. The "problem" started when I went to shoot my boys one morning with the14-35mm on my E-3. I have had no issues with either the E-3 or the 14-35mm in the past in even questionably light (like 1/20th second exposure at ISO 3200) The light was low (1/60th at ISO 2000, really not that bad), but the focusing was quite slow, and took a while to lock on. Throughout the next couple days I started trying everything I could to find out what the solution was.

In the past, I have seen my E-3 lock onto or seem to jump when I pushed the shutter button. In reality it usually only happens when the batteries begin to lose their charge, or when I have an old battery in my camera, and it very rarely happened.

Basically after a couple weeks of experimenting I can confidently say that without the HLD-4 on my camera the focusing of the E-3 is at times weaker than with the HLD-4. It is also more noticeable with a lens such as the 14-35mm for a couple reasons; the first is that the focusing mechanism is moving around a lot of glass. Second the focusing mechanism of the 14-35mm moves a lot further than that of most other lenses. You can see if you spin the 12-60mm that from its closest focusing point to infinity it is about 1/3 revolution around the barrel, however, the 14-35mm is 3/4 of a spin when going from its closest focusing point to infinity.

At this point, Tony and I connected and discussed the focusing issue. Because of his experience I decided to try focusing with the HLD-4 on my E-3’s. I took both cameras out to an area I knew well on a cloudy day to test them. I focused and shot at extreme distances, into shadows, into glare. No problems with the HLD-4 attached but the problems came back as soon as I took the grips off. Then I checked the time it took the lenses to focus under the best lighting conditions; there was no question that the focusing was faster with extra battery. Even with full, freshly charged batteries. So what’s going on here?

Battery Power in Digital Cameras.

E-3, HLD-4, BLM-1

Battery power is measured in Watts and that is determined by the Voltage of the battery and the amount of current (Amperes) the battery can deliver. Just because the battery appears to be charged does not mean that it is. You may have noticed that when a battery is running down if you turn it off and back on, it comes up green and then, one or two shots later you get a red battery, warning you that it is about to go dead.
Remember back in the days when cars had battery indicators that you could sometimes turn the key on and the battery indicator would indicate full, or nearly full, but when you pressed the starter button there was a sickly grunt from the starter and then – nothing – and the indicator suddenly showed almost no voltage. Where did the power go? Well, it wasn’t there to begin with.
That is one part of what you need to know to understand the problems of camera batteries. Voltage alone does not equal power. To have power (wattage) you must have both voltage and amperage (current). In addition, it takes current to produce a magnetic field. Low amperage means a less powerful field around the focusing coil.

But focusing is not all we need voltage for, the camera relies on voltage to power the circuit and sensing mechanism that detects the distance of the object we are focusing on. If the voltage is a bit down sensor reaction time will be slightly longer, too. The relatively low capacity batteries in a camera must furnish power to record and process the image, operate the shutter and aperture as well as power the focusing mechanism which is the major consumer of power.

The bottom line is this; it takes current to run the coils in the focusing mechanism of lenses and it takes voltage to push the current through the coils. There is not much voltage (push) in small Lithium-ion batteries. Adding a second battery provides more push. Helping it with an extra battery is just good sense.

While we are on the subject of focusing, there are several points you might keep in mind

  1. Focusing in Olympus systems is done by detecting the contrast of the target. Low light equals low focus detection. (That’s why focusing in the evening will take longer that in bright sunlight.)
  2. The hardest subject to focus on is a dark subject against a dark background.
  3. The easiest subject to focus on is a bright but detailed white against a blue sky.
  4. Over bright spots in an area being focused on will confuse the focusing mechanism.
  5. Focusing a telephoto lens will take longer than a wide angle or normal lens. Why? Because the focus coil has to travel further. (But you knew that, didn’t you?)

In the Revolutionary War our soldiers were reminded to “Keep your powder dry.”
To you I would say, “Keep your batteries charged.” (And a fresh pair in your pocket.)

Richard


by nrgaudet on Mon, 05/25/2009 - 22:19
Well that explains why I've never seen the 'mythical' E3 focusing issue. I put the battery grip on my E3 right away and haven't taken it off since.

by jdal on Tue, 05/26/2009 - 12:40
Well having a weak battery certainly doesn't explain ALL the focussing issues. My E3 went in for repair, came back with 1.3 firmware on it and the focus was goosed. The dealers agreed, sent it back and 1.4 seems to have fixed it. A reputable guy over on "the dark side" is absolutely certain that 1.4 has ruined his E-3's focussing. These cameras are NOT consistent - some versions have significant focussing problems. These are not beginners we're talking about here, they're people with years of experience reporting persistent OOF problems.

by jkrumm on Tue, 05/26/2009 - 15:58
That was a good read, Richard. I read a report somewhere, by someone, that he felt his 620 focused much faster with its battery grip. Doesn't surprise me. My 420 seems to struggle to push the 50-200 glass around, for sure, unless it's very close to focused already.

by davidh202 on Tue, 05/26/2009 - 15:59
I fully agree with jdal,

What you say makes complete sense from a (power) management viewpoint, BUT....
There have from the beginning been too many accomplished users getting inconsistant AF results with and without the HLD-grip,
not to mention inconsistancies with different versions of firmware using the same equipment and camera settings. period.

We should not be forced to use a power grip if we don't want one simply because Oly didn't design a system that would efficiently provide enough power to correctly focus even the basic lenses let alone the heavy glass.
If that was the case then they should have built it into the camera like a top end Canon or Nikon.

by Hokuto on Tue, 05/26/2009 - 16:04
I'll assume you guys are right about the HDL-4. I haven't tested it so I have no clue. But I also think that computer things are just so complicated these days that there's a good deal of stuff that just has to be left up to electronic "gremlins." No rhyme or reason. Last Sunday I was shooting a festival in Tokyo with the E-3 + HLD-4, and mostly the 50mm f2 (it was inside a somewhat dark temple). Occasionally the camera would just lock up in the funniest way--I was using single-point center focus mark, but if I half-pressed the shutter several times in succession to refocus (at least, I guess that was when it happened--I couldn't even pin down what I was doing to make it happen), the focus mark would stop lighting at all--and even if I tried refocusing on something at a different distance. Wondering what had happened, I tried pressing the shutter fully and it would trip properly, and the focus light would come back on--eventually (not sure what I did there, either)-- but this kind of thing happened a few times during the hour I was shooting at a rather mad pace, and I just laid it up to those electronic gremlins. . . .

by davidh202 on Tue, 05/26/2009 - 16:11
Norm,
I had described a similar experience back in 2007 shortly after getting the E-3.
Sometimes repeated half presses will give the camera temporary amnesia and it just goes Doh!

by VicF on Tue, 05/26/2009 - 17:05
I wonder if some of the issues with the firmware upgrades could be the files getting corrupted during the download/install process, I think I would be a lot more comfortable downloading the file onto my hard disk or CF card to install from rather then doing the update over the internet and wireless.

I am very happy with 1.4 so far and I do have the HLD-4 on full time also keep the only set of batteries I have topped up. Need to get another set of batteries.

Cheers

Vic.

by jdal on Tue, 05/26/2009 - 18:30
Quote:
Originally Posted by VicF View Post
I wonder if some of the issues with the firmware upgrades could be the files getting corrupted during the download/install process, I think I would be a lot more comfortable downloading the file onto my hard disk or CF card to install from rather then doing the update over the internet and wireless.
...
The file IS loaded onto the HD before the update commences. I can see where Oly are coming from here, if the software allowed the process to stop and then let the user do a manual update there would be a chance for someone to try and load the wrong software onto the camera, and you could bet your bottom dollar that someone would. This way all that can go wrong is that the camera powers down before the computer-camera bit is 100% complete. You an also bet that someone will power the camera off before this is complete (i.e me ). Six and two threes really.

There's virtually no chance of the file getting corrupted on download to the HD and then getting loaded onto the camera in a corrupt state. Unless Olympus are quite mad, the file will have self checks to validate that it is consistent and these checks will be done before the upload. Otherwise Oly support would be swamped with dead cameras, as a corrupt file would be most likely to simply not work at all.

by Howi on Tue, 05/26/2009 - 19:58
With the HLD-4 the batteries are in parallel, this would halve the internal resistance of the batteries, allowing more voltage as more current is drawn.
It seems that due to manufacturing tolerances, one battery, in some circumstances, is not enough (throughout the battery discharge life).
Don't really know what Oly can do retrospectively here, other than suggest use of HLD-4. Great if you like the HLD-4 bummer if you don't (I don't!).
It may also only manifest itself with the top end pro lenses for the reasons stated in other posts here. (one advantage of being at the lower end of the poverty scale!!!!)

by lkeeney on Tue, 05/26/2009 - 20:14
You may well be correct about the focus issue as I have always used the HLD-4, and I always top off my batteries before going out on a shoot. Except for a focus problem I had in trying to focus on the trunk of my palm trees (which I think is a completely different problem) I have not had a problem with focus on my E-3.

I am still using the same batteries I used in my E-1 many years ago without any problems. I have four batteries and always keep them charged up. I have taken almost 400 shots with two batteries in the HLD-4 with no problems. I always take the two extra batteries with me on a location shoot, but have never had to use them.

 

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